I knew I didnt want to eat Ramen for a month, but I also wanted a rifle that was going to last and accomplish the necessities. Have you used the Springfield Saint? c/o P.O. So I walked into the store selling the M&P five minutes after the last one sold. The 16-inch Chrome Moly Vanadium barrel features a 1:8 twist rate to handle a wide range of bullet types. #1. Just my experiences and I could be wrong. From my own personal observation guns and ammo are very scarce right now. I would recommend it to a friend, first-time AR-15 buyer, or anyone who wants a solid rifle that will perform without you feeling guilty when the credit card bill arrives. /r/ar15 is here for your favorite black gun links, build pics, questions and other tactical or practical information. It means that they are all what they should be. The mob breaking into the Capitol, is going to be used to justify an assault rifle ban. The advertisers at SurvivalBlog sell prepping items, and ~storage foods. If you dont reload or cast bullets see if you have a friend or neighbor who does and see if he or she does calibers you need. We want you, our readers, to be able to make informed decisions. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. Springfield been in more wars and gun made and won civilwar with a Springfield ha true best out there ask.ml fans, Bs saintsbeter then dd all day lone look at finsh both millspec saints build better 2000 for dd ha a joke saint is better geeenmoutain make s colt bcm bbr to button shoots twice as good as dd check witch is weak whem.made go saint up against the biggest out there and beats most as well. One more thing you dont have to buy, but would otherwise! The actual pistol grip is not mil-spec, and it feels great in the hand. The Lower receiver is fitted with Magpul MOE grip and the MOE SL collapsible buttstock on the Mil-Spec buffer tube. I am looking for an all purpose rifle under 1000. Without factoring in their prices, we have to get into the nitty-gritty to differentiate these carbines. (Gaston Glock ~ became super rich, with that idea in mind for his pistol design.). Love it, love it. Keep trying to build that ammo supply and may God bless us all. But I did put a Franklin Armory Binary trigger in her and she will rock! Sorry everyone. Extremely disappointing. I like them a lot more as a company and Ive heard very few bad things about their ARs. Can't trust a review from someone that doesn't know how to use a period. Charles K, I am not a big fan of any steel case ammo. Overall the gun ran fine with no jams or issues. All comments are held for moderation and will appear after approval. Skip to main content Skip to search. That rifle was the SR-556, and to say it was a big success would be quite an understatement. The gun is amazing and I love it - Not as much as my grandpa's old 30-30, but very very close! So my first impression is HELL YES! Thanks! Ruger barrel - 1:8 twist. - Frances Bacon I am so happy with my new AR - My only AR actually. Geez man. But in the ever-evolving world of the AR-15, prices are dropping while quality is skyrocketing for Americas favorite sporting rifle. Not sure if its the ammo or the pistol (firing pin, spring, etc) but never have that happen with better quality brass rounds. The BCM Gunfighter forend uses M-Lok attachment slots. Id also be looking over it and making notes on what I had to replace to get it up to speed and then out to the range. It seems well built, and Ive never had a problem with it. I've found both of them in stock for $750 and $950 respectively. 03-28-2022, 08:38 AM #2 BuckyTownsend Senior Member Join Date Jan 2017 Posts 2,013 save your money, do the research, and then assemble what you want from individual components. She can load her own mags but apparently being her gun boy is why she married me. Parts are straight off the recommended list, as Saint uses an M16-profile USGI-spec bolt carrier group with a select Carpenter 158 bolt. If you want to improve the trigger further and help your accuracy, then check out what we think are the Best Drop-in AR-15 Triggers. The Saint is new on the market. Not a sporting arms company. I have friends that have them and love them! The extractor is destroying the casing when it fires so it has nothing to grab on to in order to extract. You can get one right now for 350 plus theft, free shipping. The rhetoric coming out of DC at the moment shows these people are completely unhinged. Any advice for an older fella would be greatly appreciated and welcome. He also turned me onto CTD for good price/quality ammo & accessories, so I have not been a long time follower of your blog. Hmm, this must be how Biden is calling for America United to be united. The 16 barrel is a 1:8 twist M4 profile unit that features a mid-length gas system, a bit of an oddity when we are talking sub-thousand dollar ARs. SAINT Victor .308 Features. Armalite: M-15 A4. Receiver: Type III Hard Coat Anodized Aircraft Grade 7075 T6 Aluminum, Since purchasing, I have outfitted my Saint with a. addition to a great rifle, you also get an awesome hard case. It makes a huge difference, and with accuracy, caliber counts for far less than first round hit on a vital spot. For my malfunction testing, I loaded all the magazines with Black Hills Ammunition 55-gr FMJ ammo. The twist rate of both rifles is also different. It has a 16-inch, 4150 chrome-moly steel barrel with a 1:24"inch twist, that has been FNC treated for maximum durability and longevity. While chambered in 5.56 NATO, the Springfield Armory Saint Edge PDW has but a 5.5-inch barrel. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Shot three rounds from it then tried the original PMAG- This time it set in fine. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Both guns will last a lifetime, too. Furniture on the Saint is from Bravo Company, another good choice (very popular and highly recommended in the aftermarket). The gun has some great features including an M-LOK aluminum free-float handguard with patent-pending Springfield locking tabs for unlimited customization. I don't think either is a good deal for your purpose or really any other. In 2017 I brought a basic Saint and OH MY. Item Number: ST916556BLC-B5. In the past week Im getting covered up with requests for ammo from people I dont even know. I say this, if you can find no other, it will most likely work for you. Theres nothing this gun needs. Pins were not too tight. I think its chrime lined. Springfield Saint Victor 5.56mm AR-15 Pistol with SBA3 Pistol Stabilizing Brace. The two most easily spotted differences between the original AR-556 and the MPR are barrel length and the handguard. It is accurate,reliable and light. $1,249.99. The Shooter's Log, is to provide informationnot opinionsto our customers and the shooting community. Sure, you can pay a lot more for a fancier AR than either the Ruger AR-556 or the Springfield Armory Saint AR, but I dont believe you will be getting more of any AR. Ruger. While many people (myself included) were skeptical of Springfields first AR-15, the Saint has proven itself to be a stand-out among entry-level AR-15s. I honestly believed that the Ruger would handicap me with the heavier trigger pull, but it didnt! When the L Stal asked Nancy why she was such an a obstructionist in getting legislation passed, she turned it around and blamed the republicans for being the obstructionists and causing all the trouble and problems. But I wouldn't have know what I know now if I hadn't purchased the SW in the first place. An AR is an AR is an AR in my opinion. Now on my soapbox, what happened at the capitol was wrong and has given the democratic commies more ammo to go after everyone else. Capacity: 30+1-Round Cartridge: 5.56 mm NATO Front Sight: None Length: 32.25-35.8 Magazine Included: 1 x 30-Round Magazine Type: Removable Muzzle: Flash Suppressor Rear Sight: None Stock Material: Polymer Weight: 6.28 lbs Made in the USA Features So glad I did because the PMAG-30 that came with the gun felt a little weak as if it was a mag not suitable for retail sale by itself- Just a hunch I thought. If you find a reloader whos willing to sell expect to pay full retail if not more because hes not making any money doing it. [ my bias here; at this late date, I would recommend getting something that fires 7.6239 even if only an outrageously expensive, worn out SKS although AKs seem to be available, but insanely expensive. The Saint seriesevery variation in the lineuphas engineering ideas and specific parts incorporated to ramp up these guns to what we, custom builders, have been incorporating for years now. Shopping with us is absolutely safe - you never have to worry about credit card safety when shopping here Share your latest AR build or photos from the range with #RangeDayFriday for a chance to win a new firearm! She has a strong love for spending time outdoors, shooting and learning as much as she can about weapons, ballistics, and marksmanship. The last thing I want to do is save up for a gun just to spend money on a gunsmiththat is certainly not a problem here. And, if you want to make some changes to personalize either of these guns, you have a perfect base to start from. I wouldn't go with either option. The trigger pull on the Springfield is much lighter and crisp as well, but very smooth thanks to the coating Springfield applies to the trigger group. I don't look like my avatar! The trigger weight was perfect too- I actually like it better than my S&W shield weight- I am sure that is comparing apples to oranges but it is how I feel pulling the tigger. I just bought one of these in the pistol versionFriday afternoon. Gun Review: Springfield SAINT AR-15 Rifle. So, dont wait. Sgt. YMMV Trigger, grip, and stock ($150+$25+$50) is more than $200 of add-ons to begin with. We do not know to what standard Wolf or Tulammo is loaded. One is a through and through American firearms company with excellent customer service. The tolerances on these rifles are extremely accurate which is how an AR should be ! No regrets! Simple light and handie. The Ruger AR-556 has a cold hammer-forged barrel that a Sport II does not have. (, We noticed that you have previously logged in with your, Check what do you get by creating an account, Bookmark and compare your favorite firearms, You want a quality AR-15 and want to spend under $1000? This gun has the bones to support whatever you want to turn it into. Start Drinking Purified Water now with a Berkey water filtration system. Are your best entry-level for the cash. Caliber 5.56x45mm NATO (.223 REM) Color Black Barrel 16" LW Profile CMV, Melonite, 1:8 Sights Low Profile Spring-Loaded Adjustable Flip-Up Upper Receiver Forged 7075 T6 Aluminum, Type III Hardcoat Anodized, Forward Assist, M4 Feed Ramps Lower Receiver Springfield Saint Rifle 10 RD 5.56 16" Picatinny Gas Block (Save up to 13%) Price $893.83. Need ammo for your new AR15? My other conspirators assisting found the Sig tread to be somewhat proprietary while the M&P-15 styling to be somewhat flat. You can now buy the. Find the right optic for you in our Best AR-15 Optic 2018 review. Here is what I did: I loaded-up three 30-round magazines for each gun, and one at a time, I emptied those mags as fast as I could pull the trigger just making sure the guns had no malfunctions. and polished trigger itll probably cost you another 75 bucks. Okay, theyre nothing high-rev, but theyre there. Springfield SAINT 5.56mm AR-15 Rifle with B5 Furniture (10-Round Model) $995.00 $899.99. I highly recommend. You can now buy the Free Float Handguard version, the Lightweight Edge, or Pistol with SB Tactical Brace and 7.5 barrel! My awesome coworker blended together OD green, grey, and FDE, which turned out to be a great combo that gives it the rugged and war-torn look. I recently Demod it along side a Sig M400 tread & a S&W M&P15. Springfield SAINT Edge 556 Rifle 10 Round Magazine (Save up to 6%) Price $1299.00. barrel) gas port location from seven out to nine inches. If do not have supplies set now, its bad tactics to have a list of items you just bought. The Springfields are the only AR-type weapons I have ever owned, though I have fired many. I have not had any problems with it. A good article, especially for the people who arent into the ar shooting platform but are looking to get into one ( or two ). In any event, civilians are now having to protect themselves from this horrible violence. It is obvious to most, that the politicians have tied the hands of the police, and most police officers are pretty much a target for AntiFa and Black Lives Matter. Got the desert tan one, brand new in 2017. I had no problems and it functioned just fine. The problem is ammunition. I've fired a couple of Ruger and S&W AR rifles and thought they were good. It will bring up his Glock reviews. I've talked to some people who love the Ruger but some that said they've had a lot of problems with it. One I forgot to mention is Del-ton. What is new about it, though, is that they got it right. The first time I shot my new AR Saint the retaining pins for the trigger group backed out. Too many of us gave up the Lord and the Bible. Type your email address and well send First saint as a entry level wount be like a Corvette compared to a VW hell this gun has more out in it from spring field then most high end ars have and just as good or better yes from trigger to stock to barrel to 9 in gas system this gun is the cream of the crop I put it up against the biggest boys out there yes dd colt fn ltm Wilson combat etc it's that dam good get a bmc it rapture charger a risa 189 nickel boron bolt carrier and a sweet vortex etc site sling and you ready for wwlll saints or the gun to beleave in quality over 200 years Springfield has won wars from civil war to nam. Also before California makes getting one more difficult than it already is. I switched to a 9mm and shot a thousand rounds while getting coached by an instructor. Thats a good long while after when they could have done it. It doesn't; it stands for Armalite Rifle. The SAINT Victor SBR 5.56 synergistically combines an 11.5" chrome moly vanadium barrel with a premium Bravo Company six-position collapsible buttstock to let the gun run like the proper high-end tactical tool it is. In Stock. I would suggest to a first time buyer to NOT by a brand name and pay a lot more but instead find a less known brand and be happy. Failure to extract on the very first round. He also didnt know what else they may change/have changed on the Saint line but talked like there are other things. And there are a shit ton of them out there. How were you able to trade a $700 Saint for a $1700 DDM4V9? Ruger AR-556 M4-Style Direct Impingment MSR 223/5.56 8502. vs. Palmetto State Armory PA-15 223/5.56 46637. Springfield SAINT Edge PDW Specs. Bought it when it first came out. Heres my thoughts on both the Springfield and the Ruger, either gun will more than meet and exceed your expectations for defense be it on the mean streets or a battlefield. To Charles K ..I stocked up on steel case 9mm during obama yearsI have shot it in glocks M &Ps,hi powers,uzi, signever a problem at all with any..some say not good for the gunsbut now there is no choice and I am glad to have it way better than nothing. The Springfield Saint is probably one of the better entry-level, budget-friendly AR-15s available on the market at the moment. There is a prayer or saying out there that goes something like this. As a country we are going in the wrong direction. And no, the fact that your grandfather was a Marine, or your Father in Law was a State Trooper back in 1962, does not automatically confer all knowledge to you. Theres also the Saint Edge, Saint Free-Floatand Saint Victor models, each available as carbine, short barreled rifle (SBR) or pistoland the Victor can be a .308 Win. The trigger pull on the Ruger is heavier than I like, however, I learned in the past, after about 500 rounds of ammo through these ARs, the trigger pull lightens up quite a bit. The extractor is destroying the casing when it fires so it has nothing to grab on to in order to extract. I'm happy with it, it's a good little rifle. I liked the pistol grip on the Springfield a lot of course, nothing wrong with the pistol grip on the Ruger, either I just preferred the Springfield pistol grip a little bit more. While it was great to shoot right after swiping my card and filling out the 4473, I knew I wanted to make this gun mine. The problem is almost akin to the problem the characters in the movie The Road and another movie The Survivalist ammunition scarcity. No holds barred guide on prepping for the coming mini ice age: storage food, gardens, seeds, livestock, water systems, hunting, security, antibiotics, firearms, more. Springfield Armory Saint AR-15 Flip Up Front 5.56mm NATO 16in Black Semi Automatic Modern Sporting Rifle - 30+1 Rounds - The SAINT's flat top design is optics ready and includes a flip-up rear aperture sight and fixed A2-style front. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. We hate SPAM and promise to keep your email address safe. Lower chamber pressure being that its 9 inches instead of 7 inches I guess this is a real improvement for a product value added feature, Standard single stage G.I. High quality, super reliable and inexpensive. Palmetto State Armory, http://www.psa.com, is still selling AR-15s and they are available and work well, they dont have the name brand of Ruger or Springfield Armory but they are very good. While I am generally in favor of DIY projects and saving money, I think that building an AR would be a good project for later. I want fill a gap I have in my long gun capabilities. Get one of any of these Saints and you wont be disappointed. A mid-length design moves the carbine (16-in. When I think now of really good AR-15s, my first thought goes to Springfield Armory. Springfield Armory SAINT; Sig Saure M400 Tread; Bushmaster XM15-ES2 ORC; The Ruger AR-556 is NOT "As its name implies its strictly a 5. ruger american vs winchester xpr review. And that couple that is or was arrested in St Louis by the democratic state attorney for defending their house/ Sorry, but my soapbox is pretty shaky now, gotta go. Now for the bad news, right now, it is extremely difficult, to almost impossible, to find any kind of decent AR-15 rifle at a reasonable price. I added some things to it nothing great. Weve got a dedicated section for the AR-15 here. For those who care less about the numbers and more about the overall review, Ill sum up the key points you should know before possibly purchasing a Saint. Life saving equipment. It does shoot just fine though. The barrel has a right hand twist of 1:8. Now, I did the rapid-fire test with one gun, and then immediately followed it with the accuracy testing, while the barrel was hot. I didnt see much sense in sending more hard to get, and expensive .223 ammo downrange for this side-by-side test article. Springfield Saint 5.56 vs Smith M&P Sport II vs. Colt LE6920 - AR15.COM AR-15 AR Basics Site Notices NEW Releases from Tactical Night Vision / Night Goggles and other Shot Show Products Coming! I was wondering if anyone could offer some insight as to which rifle I should opt for, even if it's something totally different. Colt: LE6920. If you dont have a semiautomatic rifle with many magazines and ammunition, if you have the money, buy now! I once was shooting my OWN reloads in a revolver. Ruger MPR or Springfield saint victor So I'm looking to get an AR15 and have come across 2 main guns that I've been considering, the Ruger AR-556 MPR and the Springfield Saint Victor. towards your level. If ammo wasnt so darned expensive now Id have thousands of rounds through it already. Ml m14 1911 the name is as strong as colt fn rem it's a gem try one run good lube lk frog lube gtg Springfield saint the name of quality slickrick midway ga. Its not free-floating, but it is worlds beyond USGI for ergonomics and utility. It was tough to part with that much money for a weapon until the first trigger pull. Their prices are not the lowest but they are more than fair for the market. This will be my first AR and I'd like to have one turnkey before getting into a build. Sorry I dont have a better comparison for you. I've heard these rumors also but can't find any basis for them, it also doesn't make sense since Springfield has a major US manufacturing plant and import laws on rifles would make outside production difficult and costly. This is one of my favorite aspects of the Saint. Thanks Rick. It's a better gun than a dd look.all.it has dd dount but 2000 ha a joke I put it up against any dd and it come out on top.better finsh. And stay in touch with newsletters of our best articles on techniques, guns, & gear. I bought a new Saint a couple of years back and just love it. When I picked up my Saint Edge, I never expected that it would become my favorite gun. So when I say they are all what they should be, that means Springfield Armory wrote the right build sheet. You can go wrong with this platform whatsoever. I've had mine for about 3 months now and zero failures with a little over 1k rounds through it. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. if it has to be one of those two get the ruger F SA. Already looking to purchase my first AR-15, I did what any gun lover on a budget would do: Research. All Deals; Today; . This was my first personal ar-15. I'm new to the AR type guns and have read a bunch on each of these. . Ive put hundreds of rounds of 55 grain and 62 grain 5.5645 NATO ammo through it with no malfunctions. If you have access to a firing range with guns for rent, I would definitely recommend shooting as many as you can to get a feel for what you like. I started with a S&W sport 2. As a side note, ive never been disappointed with springfield. Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting. Home Firearms AR-15s How the Springfield Saint Compares to Other AR-15 Platforms. Feels great, looks fantastic (i have the earth tone and love it), has a really nice crisp trigger for stock, and its never malfunctioned. Smart and wise. You'll now receive newsletters of our best articles on techniques,

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